Advice on a FZS1000, I got that fuzzy feelin'

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nfoxall	Advice on a FZS1000, I got that fuzzy feelin'	Lead	[-]
DAS Born Again Posts: 88 (28/04/2008 18:11:45) DAS Born Again Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : fzs1000, bos, price, advice Hi all, I havent been on here for a while, and its because I let my old fazer down, it looked after me for over two years, bringing me out too germany too work and going through the hard ships of not much maintenance or tender loving care, taken from me by a twat in a tiny white car who thought he was more important than me, pulled out and I was forced off the road and dumped, he fecked off and my fazer was no more :-( Anyways, that was 2 years ago and Im in a position to get back in the seat, had a couple of run arounds but nothing major.... Saw this sat in a shop not too far from me (in Germany) and got that fuzzy feeling down inside, the details I have are: 1 Owner 12,568km first registered March 2003, After market can, (BOS not heard of this before, any opininons?) I believe the belly pan is after market unless they were installing them at the factory for this year (advive?), If it is after market its colour matched pretty damn good. The bike is in really good condition, I know they can be cleaned up but under the nose is spotless and a few other hard to reach places.... There asking 5800 (4565GBP) Euros for it. Now it is a 5 year old bike but mileage or kilometerage?!? is minimal as you can see. Just looking to get opinions on if the price is too high or ok? Many thanks in advance, Nick Foxall.
nfoxall		#1	[-]
DAS Born Again Posts: 89 (28/04/2008 18:13:41) DAS Born Again Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Oh and by the way, its surrounded by Hondas, and that butt ugly Monster 600 so its looking quite sad sat there all on its own.
Falcon 269		#2	[-]
GP Hero Posts: 954 (28/04/2008 18:18:04) Club Racer Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi Nick The belly pan is by MBD, a German firm. Same as on mine, that's how I recognise it. Not a Yamaha part, obviously. BOS cans are very good kit, so that's a bonus. Has it been rejetted? Being German market, probably not. Price is what the local market values it at, so comparing with a UK-dealer bike isn't really applicable, 'specially considering the crap exchange rate at the moment The fairing appears to be missing the black stripe decal and Fazer logo; also, I think there should be a Yamaha tuning fork emblem on the nose. You might want to probe a bit deeper as to why that isn't in standard trim. Looks tidy but only you can delve more deeply into the stuff like chain, sprockets, tyres, brakes etc etc - the usual consumables. Happy shopping
ghostbiker		#3	[-]
Posts: 176 (28/04/2008 18:41:02) Muck Spreader Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	some one resprayed the rad trims to. would place dosh on it being down the road at low speed as theat nose has been played with to.
cable tie		#4	[-]
Club Racer Posts: 325 (28/04/2008 18:44:42) Weekend Warrior Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	looks like a nice bike and did you know yellow is the safest colour on the road and that bit of advice was given to me by the old bill, so hopefully you wont get knocked off nxt time..
nfoxall		#5	[-]
DAS Born Again Posts: 90 (28/04/2008 18:50:06) DAS Born Again Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	played with in what way?
Locksmith		#6	[-]
GP Hero Posts: 6586 (28/04/2008 18:57:01) FOC-U Official Selfish Bastard A bit of a cheapskate June 09 Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	If you are in Germany, check out www.fazer-net.de They all worship the thou and if your German isn't the best, a fair few of them speak perfect English. Oku1 and y2k to name a couple are great guy's!
nfoxall		#7	[-]
DAS Born Again Posts: 91 (28/04/2008 19:41:13) DAS Born Again Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	ta for that.
cable tie		#8	[-]
Club Racer Posts: 326 (28/04/2008 20:36:00) Weekend Warrior Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I dont think its been down the road and obviously you can tell if it has,im sure you know this and where look! also look on the inside of the fairing! where the light is fixed by screws to the fairing lower edge once its been dropped or had a bang the lugs on the inner fairing that hold the headlight brake the ones you will be able to see are at each side of the headlight at the lower edge, and i would say maybe the last keeper removed the stickers to give it a clean look on the front end! ive also painted my rad sides black match the yell/black paint job so i would'nt let this put you off. Last Edited By: cable tie 28/04/2008 20:43:34. Edited 1 times.
pitternator	my opinion .....	#9	[-]
GP Hero Posts: 2634 (29/04/2008 05:48:41) "I'll be back" Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	If the bike has slid down the road, then its not just the pan and fairing which would be affected. IMO I concur with Dave( cable tie) that its possible the owner simply removed the decals etc. If you were repainting a bike...these seem pretty minor items not to put back on if you want to hide the fact !! I would push the dealer to at least put these on for free. Also ask for the stock can as well. Price wise... well £4500 would be top price for that mileage in the UK. I aint got a clue about relative prices in Germany....like Mike says, the euro exchange rate is so poor...it might mask its real price to you. The euro has been so strong lately ..its now at 1.2 to the pound... not long ago it was 1.4 ! Logo issues aside, it looks a clean tidy bike. But as usual dont get too settled by initial looks...probe deeply ...check all paperwork... be a nuisance ! You cant ask questions after you have bought it ....if you are paying near top whack , insist on fresh tyres, chain etc... Like you , I was looking at gen1s in january. I saw one on the internet which looked just what I wanted, and was fairly local to me ( the best ones were 150 miles away ! )... good job I did not buy the first thing I saw...only later that day I found a far better one for only £100 more ! So my advice is check as many bikes out as possible before committing yourself, and reassure yourself that the price and condition is the current market price at least. I wish you well Pitty
ghostbiker		#10	[-]
Posts: 177 (29/04/2008 09:24:24) Muck Spreader Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	i sounded harsher than i ment to. by played with i just meen its not as it was from the factory. decals etc its hard to explain but to me something just looks wrong, i cant put my finger on it and as its only 1 photo its also a total over reaction. it is prob just the fact without any decals on the nose fairing its a mass of yellow and just make it look sprayed to me and out of sorts with the bike. but yes i have seen others taken the decals off and painted the rad guards. i have 2 sets of guards 1 painted 1 std myself.
fzsbika	easy way top check if its been down the raod...	#11	[-]
WSB Pack Hound Posts: 109 (29/04/2008 11:54:49) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	get them to undew the 3 screws so the inner panels can be removed and check the following:- Check all the inner panel retaining spigots (if some aree missing or snapped/crack, then its been possibley dropped) Check the lugs on the back of the headlamp (of some of these are missing/cracked/broken, then its been dropped) Check the front subframe (big black metal item that the front clocks & hlight bolt to) - its has a webing of thin metal in the middle, (this should be perfectly straight, iuf not its been dropped) Check the handle bars on full-to-lock - (each bar end should be the same distance from the tank, if not then the side/end nearest the tank is the side it was dropped on) Check the edges of everything with a fine tooth comb - (mirrors/indicators/bar-ends/fairing/footpegs/end-can/clutch cover/ends of forks - basically all the sticky-out bits) If there as any/enough damage to the above list then its been dropped. Take it for a test ride (or better still, get one of us to do it for you). It should go in a nice straight line, go round r/h and l/h corners equally, under braking it should stop in a straight line not pull to one side. Check there is no judder/pulsing from the front brake (that's an instant MOT failure) hmm cant think of anything else... if they have nothing to hide they wont mind the 5 mins it takes to remove panels. bika
nfoxall		#12	[-]
DAS Born Again Posts: 92 (29/04/2008 13:53:48) DAS Born Again Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Nice advice, i'll take a note of it.
fzsbika		#13	[-]
WSB Pack Hound Posts: 111 (29/04/2008 20:40:12) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	nfoxall wrote: Nice advice, i'll take a note of it. Ive rebuilt 2x Gen1 fazer 1000's so I know all the bits to look for etc. If you cant find a local foccer to check it out, take a digi cam and take some hi res pics of all the spots I mentioned and I`ll have a look etc.. bika
nfoxall		#14	[-]
DAS Born Again Posts: 93 (30/04/2008 18:54:10) DAS Born Again Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hmm, update... Went to a yamaha dealer about 70k's away and saw an fz1 black naked, 6000km 2007 some middle aged guy bought and his wife said it was too fast for her on the back, still got waranty left on it and going for 2000 euros more than the yellow one..... hmm hmm hmm, i do like the look of the fz1. hmm hmm hmm.
fzsbika		#15	[-]
WSB Pack Hound Posts: 112 (01/05/2008 08:53:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	pro and cons: Gen1 FZS1000 - - its has more midrange power, (dosent need to be reved as much) - better wind protection (I'm 5`8" and even I noticed) - the seat is far comfier (the seat on the fz1 is rock hard) - there is more under seat storage compared to the gen2 - is 2000 cheaper - more spares/accessories available. Gen2 FZ1 - - the handling, - the brakes - fuel injected - more bling bika
nfoxall		#16	[-]
DAS Born Again Posts: 94 (01/05/2008 13:47:53) DAS Born Again Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks for that run down. What im looking at is the prices at this dealer and most of the fazers here are around the same price they've got a 98 model 600 for 3000 euros, (but it is in minted stock condition). 5 year old bikes are going for 5500 to 6500 so im looking at the price in maybe 3-5 years time where the fz1 will be 3-5 years old but the other one is going into the 10yr old mark.... I know im going a bit too financial and it should be about what I prefer to look at and ride, which is why im getting the test ride on the fz1 this weekend... we'll see how I feel saturday :-)
ghostbiker		#17	[-]
Posts: 184 (01/05/2008 15:24:17) Muck Spreader Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Both are stonking bikes and good all rounders. on a short test ride i prefered the gen2 over the gen 1 but given a longer test ride (2hrs +) gen 1 wins hands down for me. i personaly find the gen 1 easyer to live with day to day. but if i needed a bike for weekend fun and frolics then gen 2 all the way for me. i just love the useablility of the gen 1, a good bike under 7k revs and a great bike above. comfort but still able to play with the sports 1000's when needed. but the gen1 and gen 2 debate is a much a contested thing and realy comes down to which you prefer to ride.
pitternator		#18	[-]
GP Hero Posts: 2638 (02/05/2008 16:47:00) "I'll be back" Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The other thing to be aware of with both FZ1 and FZS is that both are greatly improved by aftermarket jet kits/ PC3 remapping. I have owned 2 gen1s and a FZ1...all were jetted / PC3 'ed. The difference over stock performance, smoothness etc is actually quite remarkable...maybe bear in mind the cost of this when doing yer sums ! The FZ1 works out a little bit dearer to do this work too. As an allrounder , I dont think the FZ1 cuts the mustard.Its very sports focused, and gives few nods towards being an allrounder ...but its not really its niche. The gen2 is a revvy , good handling fun bike, not a serious tourer. Like any bike, you can go touring on it ...but I found it wanting for long distance work. So do choose wisely ! The seat and suspension are very hard compared to the gen1.Unless you go to fair lengths, the gen2 power delivery is fairly high in the rev range, and is quite harsh...great for blasting , not so good at rolling on type of riding.The tank range is irritatingly small too, especially if you do use the revs ! But on the plus side, the FZ1 is a great looking funky bike, which for many is very important. Best of luck.
mjf65		#19	[-]
Weekend Warrior Posts: 128 (02/05/2008 21:20:43) DAS Born Again Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hey Nick fly over to Bristol and you can have mine and ride it back. What;'s more its YELLOW and it's never been down the road.
pitternator		#20	[-]
GP Hero Posts: 2639 (03/05/2008 07:02:43) "I'll be back" Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hmmm... yes.. and considering the strength of the euro....might be a very good buy ! Only hitch might be re registering it in Germany ??????

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